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First Name:
Walter
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Date Entered:
28-Jan-05
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State
VA
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Court or Office:
Fairfax County Court
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The following are my letters of protest. I am helping the Jagannathans from further abuse. The reaction from the courts were one of hostility, vindictiveness, and abuse. The whole system including the Judge, the Guardian ad Litem, the lawyers were angry that their abusive tactits were documented and put on the web and letters sent to the Governer, Attorney General and Legislators. This caused them to stop the abuse, but they became malacious and vindictive. The following is a sample of the petition, letters that were sent to several agencies and displayed on the web.
To: The Honorable Attorney General John D. Ashcroft , The Honorable Governor Mark Warner, The Honorable Harry L. Carrico, Chief Justice of Virginia, The Honorable Johanna L. Fitzpatrick, Chief Judge, Court of Appeals of Virginia, The Honorable Charles E. Poston, Judge, Fourth Judicial Circuit, The Honorable Randall G. Johnson, Judge, Thirteenth Judicial Circuit, The Honorable Paul M. Peatross, Jr., Judge, Sixteenth Judicial Circuit, The Honorable Joanne F. Alper, Judge, Seventeenth Judicial Circuit, The Honorable Diane McQ. Strickland, Judge, Twenty-third Judicial Circuit, The Honorable Donald A. McGlothlin, Jr., Chief Judge, Twenty-ninth Judicial Circuit, The Honorable William R. Moore, Jr., Judge, Fifth Judicial J&DR District, The Honorable Suzanne K. Fulton, Judge, Thirtieth Judicial General District, The Honorable Kenneth W. Stolle, Member, Senate of Virginia, The Honorable S. Vance Wilkins, Jr., Speaker, Virginia House of Delegates, The Honorable James F. Almand, Member, Virginia House of Delegates, The Honorable William J. Howell, Member, Virginia House of Delegates,
"Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
-------- First Amendment, United States Constitution. ---
On or about September 10, 2004 a petition to "Stop White Collar Child Abuse in Fairfax County" was abruptly taken off by Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen with coercive tactics and illegally misrepresenting a court order. In the previous weeks, Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen have been threatening the father of S**** and L*** with termination of his parental rights to his children and jail time if any of the information was released to the public. The Petition to the Governor, Judges, Virginia residents had been hosted for over two months and had attracted over 700 signatures. The reason behind the petition's removal is obvious. Artifact Inc stated that they were told by Ms. Saxe, the petition had to be removed because of a court order prohibiting its existence. However, the proximity of this action to a communication containing the petition submitted to members of a Judicial committee, Virginia delegates and the media requesting an investigation on how complaints against these lawyers are handled raises a suspicion about what may have lead to its removal. That Petition has been copied and mirrored at several sites by concerned citizens including at http://www.petitiononline.com/112004/petition.html.
The Following is An open letter to Honorable Harry L. Carrico, Chief Justice of Virginia - White Collar Child, Family Abuse and racism by Janine Saxe and Robert Machen in Virginia
From John Bardeen johnbardeen@rock.com
October 18, 2004
By U.S Mail, and Email
To,
The Honorable Harry L. Carrico, Chief Justice of Virginia
The Honorable Johanna L. Fitzpatrick, Chief Judge, Court of Appeals of Virginia
The Honorable Charles E. Poston, Judge, Fourth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Randall G. Johnson, Judge, Thirteenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Paul M. Peatross, Jr., Judge, Sixteenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Joanne F. Alper, Judge, Seventeenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Diane McQ. Strickland, Judge, Twenty-third Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Donald A. McGlothlin, Jr., Chief Judge, Twenty-ninth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable William R. Moore, Jr., Judge, Fifth Judicial J&DR District
The Honorable Suzanne K. Fulton, Judge, Thirtieth Judicial General District
The Honorable Kenneth W. Stolle, Member, Senate of Virginia
The Honorable S. Vance Wilkins, Jr., Speaker, Virginia House of Delegates
The Honorable James F. Almand, Member, Virginia House of Delegates
The Honorable William J. Howell, Member, Virginia House of Delegates
William G. Broaddus, Attorney-at-law
Allen C. Goolsby, III, Attorney-at-law
Robert N. Baldwin, Ex-officio Secretary
Re: White Collar Child Abuse and racism in Virginia.
Dear Mr. Carrico:
We the undersigned respectfully petition you to direct the appropriate department to investigate White Collar Child Abuse and racism by two perverted divorce attorneys, Mr. Robert Machen (VSB:20287) and Ms. Janine Saxe ( VSB:23407 ) practicing in Fairfax County, Virginia pertaining to the Jagannathan case CHANCERY NO:. 182928.
As one of the important leaders of the free world, We pray and hope that you will use that role in directing the appropriate department to thoroughly investigate, and prosecute the guilty attorneys. Mr. Robert Machen (VSB:20287) and Ms. Janine Saxe ( VSB:23407 ).
Your brief official biography, your memorandum to all members of the Judicial system and the Judicial Strategic plan 2002 2004 was refreshing to read, in that you promise "to provide an independent, accessible, responsive forum for the just resolution of law and protect all rights and liberties guaranteed by the United States and Virginia Constitutions.
Since we accept your spoken words as true to your belief, and of your purpose, we have faith in your immediate recognition of a most serious and appalling crisis, and in a call for duty that readily matchers your other outstanding efforts that are currently underway including against the lowly cigarette industry.
Our Family court justice is choking on attorney fraud from the likes of Mr. Robert Machen and Ms. Janine Saxe.
The Jagannathan case is just one example of documented proof that this is no longer occasional white collar child abuse, but a decided pattern of conflict of interest, chronic fabrication, profound abuse of CHILDRENS and PARENTAL RIGHTS, loathsome racism, gender bias, infamous perversions and pernicious payoffs.
Sir, Your proven efforts, your support, your desire and commitment in helping overturn the most destructive, cancerous, inter-related set of problems existing in America today White Collar Child Abuse. - all of which are rooted in, and can be traced back to, the systematic and widespread, absolutely ignorant devastation of the traditional 'nuclear' family unit, and the resulting massive financial, social, and moral deterioration irresponsibly inflicted upon the People, the Businesses, and the Taxpayers of this Great Nation in wholehearted factory style.
In the Jagannathan case the malicious, vindictive and racist actions of Mr. Machen and Ms. Saxe over the last two and a half years have resulted in emotional and psychological state sponsored abuse and 'terrorism' of two little children who have been the tiniest victims of this cruel game, extreme hardship and cruelty on their parents and a unnecessary burden on taxpayers.
Attorney Robert Machen has openly stated that he has a deep dislike for interracial marriages, was working pro bono to prevent a "mongrel race" in Virginia, and punish interracial couples. He has called the father of the children a "sand nigger" who doesn't deserve the protection of America. He has gone so far as to fabricate allegations with the FBI, the counter Intelligence division, Department of Defense, the Homeland Security, the former Immigration Service, the Police etc. - All of which have been rejected by those agencies.
Mr. Jagannathan has an outstanding record of serving with the Department of Defense and was recommended for an accelerated United States Citizenship so that he could continue his good work for the United States army. He currently works at the Pentagon.
Attorney Robert Machen has a consistent past history of malpractice, falsifications and fabrications.
The Virginia State Bar had disciplined Mr. Machen, reprimanding him twice and suspending his license for falsifying documents. He has had district committee sanctions leveled against him;
Three Judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, Honorable Judge Thomas D. Thorne, Judge Dickson L. Foster, Judge Robert K. Woltz had found by clear and convincing evidence that Mr. Machen engaged in conduct for personal advantage, involving deceit that reflects adversely on his fitness to practice law and found him guilty under DR1-102(A)(4) of code of professional responsibility.
The Organization Citizen for Legal Reform reports Mr. Machen has engaged in conduct which tends to undermine the administration of justice and to bring legal businesses into disrepute;
Attorney Janine Saxe has conspired with Mr. Machen and has hopelessly lost site of her state appointed purpose as a Guardian ad Litem and is acting in a vindictive and malicious fashion. She has shamelessly indulged in abusing the children, their rights and interests. She has billed the Fairfax County over $ 20,000 for her services while indulging in these abuses. She has misrepresented the childrens interests, states interests, misrepresented the courts, abused tax payers monies and has undermined Fairfax Citizens faith in the countys justice system.
Because Ms. Saxe has been a past president of the Fairfax Bar association, several attorneys here in Fairfax County who have privately expressed disgust and disapproval are unwilling to oppose the wrongdoings.
This case has appalling perjury, malice and vindictiveness written all over it and these two attorneys have abused and undermined our legal system for personal advantage.
Any act of fraud is reprehensible, however when an officer of the court commits fraud, is vindictive and malicious, his fraud, vindication and maliciousness reflects on the justice system itself. And since the justice system is self- regulating, it is up to the courts to maintain the public trust by strictly scrutinizing allegations against one of their own. A lawyer must not be allowed to profit by using the family court system to defraud the public.
A petition that illustrates the necessity for this investigation and bears the support of more than 700 signatures is attached. The original petition was unconstitutionally removed by Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen by misrepresenting a court order. A mirrored petition is reproduced below and can be seen at http://www.petitiononline.com/112004/petition.html
Several websites, Usenet discussions, blogs, and petitions on the net by concerned parents have attracted nationwide attention including over 11,000 Fairfax county residents. The Fairfax County Taxpayers Alliance, The Families of VA, Childrens Rights and family counsel and several others who have voiced their outrage at these actions.
We seek an investigation, the sanctioning and removal of Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen as a remedy that will renew public's faith in the integrity and fairness of our judicial system.
We respectfully Petition you for immediate attention and action.
Sincerely,
John Bardeen
Speaking unanimously for 36 million fathers, 4 million mothers and 48 million children who have been abused by injustice and seek shared custody of their children.
email: johnbardeen@rock.com
and The Following supporters
Please join us in standing up AGAINST ORGANIZED White Collar CHILD ABUSE of our children by attorney Ms. Janine Saxe and attorney Mr. Robert Machen.
To:
The Honorable Attorney General John D. Ashcroft .
The Honorable Governor Mark Warner
The Honorable Harry L. Carrico, Chief Justice of Virginia
The Honorable Johanna L. Fitzpatrick, Chief Judge, Court of Appeals of Virginia
The Honorable Charles E. Poston, Judge, Fourth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Randall G. Johnson, Judge, Thirteenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Paul M. Peatross, Jr., Judge, Sixteenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Joanne F. Alper, Judge, Seventeenth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Diane McQ. Strickland, Judge, Twenty-third Judicial Circuit
The Honorable Donald A. McGlothlin, Jr., Chief Judge, Twenty-ninth Judicial Circuit
The Honorable William R. Moore, Jr., Judge, Fifth Judicial J&DR District
The Honorable Suzanne K. Fulton, Judge, Thirtieth Judicial General District
The Honorable Kenneth W. Stolle, Member, Senate of Virginia
The Honorable S. Vance Wilkins, Jr., Speaker, Virginia House of Delegates
The Honorable James F. Almand, Member, Virginia House of Delegates
The Honorable William J. Howell, Member, Virginia House of Delegates
The Honorable Judges of Fairfax County and Virginia.
The Honorable Senators, Congressmen, Legislators, Childrens rights organizations. Fairfax County Supervisors, Church Groups, Family rights activists.
We need your help and support.
Two innocent little children (S**** 5 Years and L**** 3 years ) have been the tiniest victims of these two attorney manipulations the last two and a half years.
Friends of Little S**** and L*** would like to bring awareness and help end this abuse by Mr. Robert B. Machen and Ms. Janine M. Saxe ( guardian ad litem for the children).
Ms. Janine Saxe and Mr. Robert Machen are wasting Tens of Thousands of tax payer dollars undermining fit parents, misleading and abusing our court system, setting one parent against the other, false reporting to courts, state and federal agencies, separating and abusing the Jagannathan family while profiting unethically from their actions.
This is unacceptable, and should not be tolerated here in the U.S or anywhere else in the world. Little S**** and L*** have been subjected to suffering and their young minds abused and manipulated by the destructive actions of Ms. Janine Saxe and Mr. Robert Machen.
We demand Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen be removed from the lives of little S**** and L***.
We demand Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen be held accountable, brought to justice, and punished. We demand an independent investigation.
We request wide dissemination of this material. Thank you for signing this petition.
Whereas, public confidence in the legal justice system is based on the expectation of honest service by officers of the court and equal justice under the law;
Whereas, Ms. Janine M. Saxe and Mr. Robert B. Machens malicious acts are an act of emotional and psychological terrorism against the little children, against parents and against a family;
Whereas, for Children and Parents there can be nothing in life experience more devastating than the abrupt, brutal, and unwarranted enforced separation due to the abusive and manipulative tactics of Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen;
Whereas, The parent-child bond is the strongest instinct, superseding all else and is protected by our constitutional rights;
Whereas, The parent-child bond is the strongest instinct, superseding all else and is protected by our constitutional rights;
Whereas, Ms. Saxe was made aware of Attorney Robert Machens past record of malpractice including, falsifying documents and evidence;
Whereas, The Virginia State Bar had disciplined Mr. Machen, reprimanding him twice and suspending his license for falsifying documents. He has had district committee sanctions leveled against him;
Three Judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, Honorable Judge Thomas D. Thorne, Judge Dickson L. Foster, Judge Robert K. Woltz had found by clear and convincing evidence that Mr. Machen engaged in conduct for personal advantage, involving deceit that reflects adversely on his fitness to practice law and found him guilty under DR1-102(A)(4) of code of professional responsibility.
The Organization Citizen for Legal Reform reports Mr. Machen has engaged in conduct which tends to undermine the administration of justice and to bring legal businesses into disrepute;
Whereas, Ms. Saxe was made aware of Rule 3.4 of the Virginia State Bar Rules of Professional Conduct for attorneys. - A Lawyer shall not Falsify Evidence. Counsel or assist a witness to testify falsely;
Whereas, Ms. Janine Saxe failed to abide by the Virginia State Bar code when she violated Rule 8.4 Rules of Professional conduct (A Lawyers obligation to report misconduct to disciplinary authorities is absolute, and is stronger than the policy against disclosing confidential material surrendered during discovery. Therefore a Lawyer who suspects unethical conduct by another lawyer can include information uncovered during the litigation in an unsealed counterclaim, despite the protective order protecting the material);
Whereas, Attorney Mr. Machen repeatedly filed false papers and made false statements in court that were not supported by evidence, and Ms. Saxe as an attorney and officer of the court is duty bound by law to report such falsifications;
Whereas, white collar child and family abuse by Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen with no regard or thought to the emotional impact on two little Children (S**** and L***) who have suffered endlessly by the actions of these two attorneys is a violation of the rights or parents guaranteed by the U.S Constitution and the Commonwealth of Virginia;
Whereas, Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen have abused and undermined the childrens interests, the justice system at the expense of the taxpayers, and the Jagannathans family assets for over two years with deceit and malpractice, while profiting from these abuses by asking for attorney fees and other expenses;
Whereas, to have a parent child bond abruptly severed by the malicious efforts of Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen giving no consideration to the fear, anxiety, and trauma their actions cause to two little children, is child abuse, a crime against humanity and should not be tolerated in the state of Virginia;
Whereas, Ms. Janine Saxe interests in being a guardian, of the children while advocating denial of visitation to the fit, educated and caring father of S**** and L***;
Whereas, small children believe their parents to be all-powerful, like super heroes. They believe that their parents possess an all-powerful ability to shelter and protect them from any threat;
Whereas, Ms. Saxe and Mr. Machen coercion of a parent into submission under a false pretense and engineering the abduction of their children from all that is safe and familiar to them, a fundamental belief system within the child is broken forever, along with the child's ability to feel safe and secure in their world;
Whereas, Robert Machen attempts to file numerous injunctive relief, Protective orders in order to separate the parents and the children claiming a new set of abuse allegation each time;
Whereas, spurious child abuse charges maliciously filed with Child Protective Services (CPS) were dismissed as baseless by the CPS, yet Mr. Machen goes to court with a motion the very next week on child abuse and neglect charges;
Whereas, a fax document discovered as evidence of Robert Machens devious actions in which he conspires to bring criminal false allegation to the FBI, Department of Justice, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service in order to revoke the father of the childrens green card in an effort to seize control of the children;
We deplore Ms. Janine M. Saxe and Mr. Robert B. Machens relentless two and a half year effort at undermining the childrens interests, promoting separation, bitterness, acrimony and divorce between the parents by playing one side against the other, filing false documents with Federal and State Agencies including the FBI, Department of Justice, Child Protective Services, Police, The former Immigration and Naturalization Service.
NOW THEREFORE,
BE IT RESOLVED that the rights of parent and children to have frequent and continuing contact is a fundamental, joint right of the parent and child with a basis in constitutional case law, which has held that the rights to raise, have access to, and care for ones own children are more precious than property rights, are essential ; and that the right to be with ones children is a natural right with a higher moral claim than any economic right.
BE IT RESOLVED that the U.S Supreme court has stated consistently as that of parental rights. ie: In 1923 the Court asserted that the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause includes the right of parents to establish a home and bring up children and to control the education of their own. Meyer v. Nebraska. 262 U.S 390, 399, 401, (1923). On June 5, 2000, the Supreme Court declared that [I]t cannot now be doubted that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right of parents to make decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of their children. Troxel v. Granville ( 530 U.S 2000)
BE IT RESOLVED that Fundamental Constitutional rights are accorded a special status in judicial review. The Fourteenth Amendment prohibits the state from depriving any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
BE IT RESOLVED that the actions of Ms. Janine Saxe and Mr. Robert Machen are a infringement of parental rights guaranteed under our constitution. Such acts of deprivation must occur only when there is a compelling state interest served by interfering with these rights and there is no more constitutionally benign way to achieve this compelling state interest.
BE IT RESOLVED that there has never been any evidence presented that, the retention of parental rights by both parents would compromise a compelling state interest.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that We assert and affirm our rights under the constitution to protect and defend our children from the likes of Janine M. Saxe and Robert B. Machen.
Thank you for taking the time to read and sign this petition.
Sincerely,
John Bardeen and Friends of Little S**** and L***
A sample of the over 700 SIGNATURES.
762.Roseanna Richardson
763.Miriam Martin
764.Cindy Carter
VIRGINIANS - You must get involved in this family's case. These two attorneys should be taken to task. The State of VIRGINIA, if allowed to railroad this family, will set a precedent for trying other families the same way. The next child could be the boy next door, the girl in your Sunday school class - or it could be your own. Don't let your state move backwards - make some noise - let the courts know you want Virginia's children to be treated like children.
765.Bonnie Phillips
766.Patricia Barnes
767.Rebecca
768.Mary Tabor
769.Susanne Robertson
770.Jennifer
Remove these MONSTERS!!!!!
771.Paris
I agree 100%.
770.rachael cox
773.Patti Swindol
REMOVE THESE MONSTERS!!!!!. REMOVE THESE MONSTERS NOW.
774.Ann-Marie Longanecker
775.Edd Freeman
776.Amela Hadzic
Justice is blind in America.
777.Jamie Phillips
778.Peter Love
Hello, My song, "Save Our Children" has been used in several national recognized cases such as yours the most recent being Daniel Carter, Justice For Juveniles, in Florida of this year. Visit their website and others my SOC Foundation and I have helped such as Kourts for Kids, United Visions for a Peacefu Journey, Safe Kids Foundation, Miracles of Hope Network, Kightbikers, Jesse and Neal Foundation and more . We held the first official and historic "Save Our Children" Day in your state of Mississippi in 2001. The "SOC" song is now being hailed as an anthem song for children. Music, a universal language, can galvanize people, stir souls, change hearts to wipe out injustice. I have been across the country to help victimized children. Please feel free to use my song where you see fit. if Annie Armen, a wonderful woman who I had the chance to work with on her powerful radio show, is behind you, then I am right here as well to fight this injustice. ( www.peterlove.biz) With Love, Peter Love
779.ELAINE LIMBAUGH
780.michelle
If only one justice official could turn the tables, place their own selves or perhaps a family member in the shoes of those for who they 'hold so much power': I wonder, would they turn their hearts, their minds, their thoughts towards listening to the public? Or, is it that our country's political agenda's are soaked into too many persons.
781.Lori Elliott
782.Vanessa
783.Katrina Davis
784.Ernest Michael Bonneau
785.Michelle Treharne
Appalled at such treatment of children in this day and age. United Kingdom
786.Wendy Bolt
787.Jamie Simmons
788.jesse eldridge
789.Cassie Zievers
790.The Defense Foundation for children USA
791.Karen Sullivan
792.Stan Chiles
793.JUDI MATTHEWS
794.Rhoda Harris
795.Emalee Tabler
796.Donald Figura
797.Jerry Lurz
798.Diana Skipworth
799.Anthony Salvati
800.Casey Kilbourne
These are little children why can't the system get these things right?
801.Marcy Lurz
802.Cari Barichello
803.Mel Goldberg
804.jim whittenburg
805.Brian E. Oliver
806.Susan Thompson
807.Julie Phillips
808.Debbie camacho
809.Janice Brasfield
810.Albert Armen
811.Kenneth Maye
812.(Annie Armen's Dad)
749.Brianne Montgomery
750.Randy Shew
751.Shelby Earnshaw
752.Mardi Bennett
Word fail me !!
753.Anne Thomas
754.Maggie Pospisil
755.Robin J. Chriss
756.Paula G
As adults surely we're all meant to understand compassion and justice. What happened to this in the courtrooms? United Kingdom
757.Melissa Curry
758.Karen J Burnett
759.Laura Bullock
760.Elena (Lennie) Thompson
761.kelly smith
743.Von Jackson
This petition will be talked about at http://www.worldtalkradio.com/show.asp?sid=9747
742.Jordan McMaster
741.Donna Gallegos
These children are not mature enough to make decisions concerning their defense! This is barbaric treatment that the juvenile system was created to avoid. Stop this travesty before these children's life is destroyed.
742.michele young
These are little Children!!!!.
743.Amy Wheeler
Please help these two children have a wholesome family. Remove the two attorneys.
744.Lori Andrus
Together with my husband Calvin Andrus, Chico and Didi Vega, and Annie Armen, I support this petition.
745.paige morrell
746.Roger Brand
747.John Steel
S**** and L*** have my support. I vote to jail the attorneys.
748.Maria Xerakias
728.sharon clay
Hang in there Little S**** and L***. We will remove these monsters from your lives.
729.Denna Armstrong
730.Karen Nelsen
748.Pamala Mommens
America needs to wake up and realize that a child is never an adult. It is as if we were a third world country that does not have to knowledge to see the difference... a child is a child and no matter what the circumstances you can't change that.
747.derek Ray
Ms. Janine and mr. Machen Do the world a favor let this family live in peace.
746.Holly Armstrong
745.Nick Panyamurthy
http://www.ablechild.org/
744.William F. Earnshaw
718.John Paul Osborn
719.mary robertson
Stop this injustice now
720.terri robertson
Stop this injustice now
721.carl robertson
Stop this injustice now
722.Knightgale
I believe Janine Saxe is a sick woman at heart. There are many like her. They are nice talking people but are cold at heart full of envy, anger, and plain mean. She should be removed from contacting any child.
723.Tim McDonald
724.steve morgan
725.Cindy Carter
It is cruel child abuse and down right inhumane. Are the Judges sleeping on the Job. Why are we paying them. What are they doing?
726.D Thomas-Vigliano
727.elizabeth lewis
justice for the innocent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
708.JILL CARROLL
709.Lee Ann Cox
710.karen allen
These precious loving children should be helped.
711.Tommy & Trina Duncan
712.THOMAS C. ALLEN
FREE THIS CHILDREN FROM THE MONSTERS.
713.ANTHONY ALLEN
GET RID OF JANINE AND MASON.
714.Cari Barichello
715.Bettye Parker
716.Bob Charles
I find it ironic that a 30 year old with the mentality of a 12 year old is often found incapable of assisting with their defense.
717.ray mulligan
Civilized societies do not abuse children. We must quickly punish the culprits.
702.Lee W Gaylord
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